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'''Frederick John Rosenthal''' (born 1923) was a German-born U.S. Army private first class who arrived at [[Camp Ritchie]] on 24 November 1943 and was a member of [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]] (alerted overseas before completing the course).
'''Frederick John Rosenthal''' (born 1923) was a Cologne-born Jewish refugee and U.S. Army private first class who arrived at [[Camp Ritchie]] on 24 November 1943 with [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]] (alerted overseas before completing the course) and later served in Antwerp tracking V-weapons and collaboration cases.
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== Biography ==
== Biography ==
Frederick John Rosenthal (Fred; also John) was born in 1923 in Germany. After the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP), he was promoted to private first class and ordered to the Military Intelligence Training Center at [[Camp Ritchie]], Maryland. Following a two-day train trip he arrived on 24 November 1943, writing later that he wanted a “more active and positive role in this war against tyranny.
Frederick John Rosenthal (also Fred or John) was born in 1923 in Cologne, Germany, to a Jewish family. As antisemitism intensified, his parents sent him for a time to relatives in Holland and Belgium; with help from a family friend in New York the Rosenthals secured visas and fled to the United States before the Holocaust intensified. In New York he adapted as a young refugee, including learning American idioms.


He was a member of [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]] but, as he later told Ritchie History Museum director Landon Grove, he did not complete the course before being alerted for overseas assignment. Research notes also record a later transfer toward Signal Corps work (SIG). In about 2023 he recorded a video interview with Grove about his wartime experiences.
Despite a childhood history of polio that might have barred him, Rosenthal volunteered for the U.S. Army. After basic infantry training in South Carolina—where he again faced antisemitic harassment—his German and Dutch led to selection for the Military Intelligence Training Center at [[Camp Ritchie]]. After the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP) he was promoted to private first class; following a two-day train trip he arrived at Camp Ritchie on 24 November 1943, writing later that he wanted a “more active and positive role in this war against tyranny.” He was a member of [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]] and trained in map making, photo interpretation, and field orientation, but as he later told Ritchie History Museum director Landon Grove, he did not complete the course before being alerted for overseas assignment (administrative pressures under Colonel Banfield cut his stay short). In Antwerp, Belgium, his intelligence work included monitoring local media, interrogating civilians about collaboration, and tracking V-1 and V-2 rocket patterns. Research notes also record a later transfer toward Signal Corps work (SIG).
 
After the war Rosenthal used the G.I. Bill to earn multiple degrees from Columbia University. He spent about thirty years as a librarian in federal service, eventually serving as an assistant chief at the Library of Congress. In about 2023 he recorded a video interview with Grove about his wartime experiences and the Ritchie Boys’ legacy, including later public recognition such as the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Elie Wiesel Award to the Ritchie Boys.


== Research notes ==
== Research notes ==
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* Title expanded from Fred J. to Frederick John per family/user naming and memoir voice; ASN 32860017 unchanged.
* Title expanded from Fred J. to Frederick John per family/user naming and memoir voice; ASN 32860017 unchanged.
* Death year 1991 previously on the roster page was incorrect — interviewed by Landon Grove c. 2023; death fields cleared pending a reliable date.
* Death year 1991 previously on the roster page was incorrect — interviewed by Landon Grove c. 2023; death fields cleared pending a reliable date.
* Cologne / Holland–Belgium refuge / Antwerp V-weapons / Columbia / Library of Congress career from Landon Grove interview summary (user-supplied transcript summary).
* Elie Wiesel Award reference is to the Ritchie Boys as a group (USHMM), not a personal decoration for Rosenthal (Grove interview summary).


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Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_portrait_PFC.jpg|PFC Frederick John Rosenthal in service uniform (wartime portrait).
Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_memoir_Camp_Ritchie_arrival.jpg|Memoir: ASTP → PFC; arrives [[Camp Ritchie]] 24 November 1943.
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== Technical record ==
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* 1923 — Born in Germany.
* 1923 — Born in Cologne, Germany (Jewish family).
* Sent for a time to relatives in Holland and Belgium; family flees to New York with visas arranged through a family friend (before the Holocaust intensified).
* Volunteers for U.S. Army despite childhood polio; basic infantry training in South Carolina.
* ASTP (Army Specialized Training Program); promoted to PFC.
* ASTP (Army Specialized Training Program); promoted to PFC.
* 24 November 1943 — Arrives Camp Ritchie, Maryland (memoir).
* 24 November 1943 — Arrives Camp Ritchie, Maryland (memoir).
* Class 15 — Member; alerted overseas before completing the course (per interview with Landon Grove).
* Class 15 — Map making / photo interpretation / field orientation; alerted overseas before completing the course (per interview with Landon Grove; Col. Banfield).
* Antwerp, Belgium — Media monitoring; civilian collaboration interrogations; V-1 / V-2 rocket tracking.
* Later — Research notes: transferred toward Signal (SIG).
* Later — Research notes: transferred toward Signal (SIG).
* Postwar — G.I. Bill; multiple degrees, Columbia University; ~30-year federal library career, including assistant chief, Library of Congress.
* c. 2023 — Video interview with Landon Grove, Ritchie History Museum.
* c. 2023 — Video interview with Landon Grove, Ritchie History Museum.
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== Sources ==
== Sources ==
* Personal memoir excerpt (Camp Ritchie arrival 24 November 1943; RB Archive / family)
* [[Ritchie Boy Interviews#Frederick John Rosenthal|Ritchie Boy Interviews — conversation with Landon Grove]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J011zqZWUiQ YouTube])
* [[Ritchie Boy Interviews#Frederick John Rosenthal|Ritchie Boy Interviews — conversation with Landon Grove]] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J011zqZWUiQ YouTube])
* Personal memoir excerpt (RB Archive / family materials; Camp Ritchie arrival narrative)
* [[:File:Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_portrait_PFC.jpg|Wartime PFC portrait]]
* [[:File:Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_memoir_Camp_Ritchie_arrival.jpg|Memoir excerpt — Camp Ritchie arrival 24 November 1943]]
* [[:File:Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_memoir_Camp_Ritchie_arrival.jpg|Memoir excerpt — Camp Ritchie arrival 24 November 1943]]
* [[:File:Rosenthal_Frederick_John_32860017_portrait_PFC.jpg|Wartime PFC portrait]]
* Personal memoir excerpt (Camp Ritchie arrival 24 November 1943; RB Archive / family)
* Camp Ritchie Museum, Inc. (The Ritchie History Museum), Classes 1–31 roster data
* Camp Ritchie Museum, Inc. (The Ritchie History Museum), Classes 1–31 roster data
* Dan Gross research spreadsheets, including original Excel timeline/roster work, combined with other research and records
* Dan Gross research spreadsheets, including original Excel timeline/roster work, combined with other research and records
* NARA World War II Army enlistment records (where a NARA ASN is present)
* NARA World War II Army enlistment records (where a NARA ASN is present)
* 1940 U.S. Census (where a census match is present)
* 1940 U.S. Census (where a census match is present)

Latest revision as of 04:18, 19 September 2026

Frederick John Rosenthal
Frederick John Rosenthal
Personal details
Birth nameFred J. Rosenthal Fred Rosenthal John Rosenthal
Born1923
Cologne, Germany
NativityGermany
ReligionJewish
Military service
Allegiance United States
Branch United States Army
ASN32860017
RankPrivate First Class
Camp RitchieClass 15 (4 January – 3 March 1944)
EnlistedNew York City, New York
Interview Watch Frederick John Rosenthal on Conversation with Landon Grove.
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Frederick John Rosenthal (born 1923) was a Cologne-born Jewish refugee and U.S. Army private first class who arrived at Camp Ritchie on 24 November 1943 with Class 15 (alerted overseas before completing the course) and later served in Antwerp tracking V-weapons and collaboration cases.

Biography[edit | edit source]

Frederick John Rosenthal (also Fred or John) was born in 1923 in Cologne, Germany, to a Jewish family. As antisemitism intensified, his parents sent him for a time to relatives in Holland and Belgium; with help from a family friend in New York the Rosenthals secured visas and fled to the United States before the Holocaust intensified. In New York he adapted as a young refugee, including learning American idioms.

Despite a childhood history of polio that might have barred him, Rosenthal volunteered for the U.S. Army. After basic infantry training in South Carolina—where he again faced antisemitic harassment—his German and Dutch led to selection for the Military Intelligence Training Center at Camp Ritchie. After the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP) he was promoted to private first class; following a two-day train trip he arrived at Camp Ritchie on 24 November 1943, writing later that he wanted a “more active and positive role in this war against tyranny.” He was a member of Class 15 and trained in map making, photo interpretation, and field orientation, but as he later told Ritchie History Museum director Landon Grove, he did not complete the course before being alerted for overseas assignment (administrative pressures under Colonel Banfield cut his stay short). In Antwerp, Belgium, his intelligence work included monitoring local media, interrogating civilians about collaboration, and tracking V-1 and V-2 rocket patterns. Research notes also record a later transfer toward Signal Corps work (SIG).

After the war Rosenthal used the G.I. Bill to earn multiple degrees from Columbia University. He spent about thirty years as a librarian in federal service, eventually serving as an assistant chief at the Library of Congress. In about 2023 he recorded a video interview with Grove about his wartime experiences and the Ritchie Boys’ legacy, including later public recognition such as the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s Elie Wiesel Award to the Ritchie Boys.

Research notes[edit | edit source]

  • ASTP; transferred to SIG
  • ASTP; transferred to SIG (prior research note; retained).
  • Title expanded from Fred J. to Frederick John per family/user naming and memoir voice; ASN 32860017 unchanged.
  • Death year 1991 previously on the roster page was incorrect — interviewed by Landon Grove c. 2023; death fields cleared pending a reliable date.
  • Cologne / Holland–Belgium refuge / Antwerp V-weapons / Columbia / Library of Congress career from Landon Grove interview summary (user-supplied transcript summary).
  • Elie Wiesel Award reference is to the Ritchie Boys as a group (USHMM), not a personal decoration for Rosenthal (Grove interview summary).

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Technical record[edit | edit source]

Field Imported value
Approx Age at Death 68
Nara ASN 32860017
Nara Name ROSENTHAL FRED J
Nara State 23
Nara County 61
Nara POE 2364
Nara DOE 110343
Nara Grade Alpha PVT
Nara Grade Code 8
Nara Branch Alpha NO
Nara Branch Code 2
Branch No branch assignment
Nara Term or Enlistment 5
Term of enlistment Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Defer. Date 0
Nara Source 0
Nara Nativity N1
Nara Year of Birth 23
Nara Race J
Nara Race Description White not yet a citizen
Nara Education 7
Nara Civilian Occupation 405
Nara Marital Status 6
Nara Height (inches) 33
Nara Weight (lbs) 129
row_source demographics

Timeline[edit | edit source]

  • 1923 — Born in Cologne, Germany (Jewish family).
  • Sent for a time to relatives in Holland and Belgium; family flees to New York with visas arranged through a family friend (before the Holocaust intensified).
  • Volunteers for U.S. Army despite childhood polio; basic infantry training in South Carolina.
  • ASTP (Army Specialized Training Program); promoted to PFC.
  • 24 November 1943 — Arrives Camp Ritchie, Maryland (memoir).
  • Class 15 — Map making / photo interpretation / field orientation; alerted overseas before completing the course (per interview with Landon Grove; Col. Banfield).
  • Antwerp, Belgium — Media monitoring; civilian collaboration interrogations; V-1 / V-2 rocket tracking.
  • Later — Research notes: transferred toward Signal (SIG).
  • Postwar — G.I. Bill; multiple degrees, Columbia University; ~30-year federal library career, including assistant chief, Library of Congress.
  • c. 2023 — Video interview with Landon Grove, Ritchie History Museum.


Sources[edit | edit source]