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| 1 interview: [[#Alfred Goodwin|OJMCHE oral history (audio)]]
| 1 interview: [[#Alfred Goodwin|OJMCHE oral history (audio)]]
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| [[Gumpertz, Werner H. (42033526)|Werner Gumpertz]]
| [[Gumpertz, Werner Herbert (42033526)|Werner Gumpertz]]
| 1 interview: [[#Werner Gumpertz|Newton Free Library]]
| 1 interview: [[#Werner Gumpertz|Newton Free Library]]
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| [[Kaufmann, Ellen J. (A206769)|Ellen J. Kaufmann / Ellen Kaufmann Boucher]]
| [[Kantor, Gideonloc (32974443)|Gideon Kantor]]
| 1 interview: [[#Ellen Kaufmann Boucher|Canandaigua cable interview (1995)]]
| 1 interview: [[#Gideon Kantor|Ritchie History Museum]]
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| [[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]]
| [[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]]
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| [[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert Miller]]
| [[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert Miller]]
| 1 interview: [[#Albert Miller|Conversation with Landon Grove]]
| 1 interview: [[#Albert Miller|Ritchie History Museum]]
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| [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]]
| [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]]
| 1 interview: [[#Warren Musch|EF Explore America]]
| 2 interviews: [[#Warren Musch|EF Explore America]] · [[#Warren Musch (Connecting With the Past)|Connecting With the Past]]
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| [[Norton, Henry (01183147)|Henry Norton]]
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| [[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]]
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| 1 interview: [[#Frederick John Rosenthal|Conversation with Landon Grove]]
| 1 interview: [[#Frederick John Rosenthal|Ritchie History Museum]]
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| [[Schifter, Richard (32966898)|Richard Schifter]]
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=== Nathan M. Berman ===
=== Nathan M. Berman ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-Rbn8aEuk8jI" data-youtube-id="Rbn8aEuk8jI" data-heading="Nathan M. Berman" data-short="Natick Veterans Oral History Project" data-soldiers="Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-Rbn8aEuk8jI" data-youtube-id="Rbn8aEuk8jI" data-heading="Nathan M. Berman" data-short="Natick Veterans Oral History Project" data-soldiers="Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)">
[[Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)|Nathan M. Berman]] (1915–2014) was born in Massachusetts to Russian immigrant parents. Drafted in 1943 after an earlier rejection for being underweight, he moved from the Quartermaster Corps into military intelligence and trained for possible work with the French underground. A head injury during training sent him to Fort Sam Houston, Texas, where he classified new inductees. He later lived in Natick, Massachusetts.
[[Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)|Nathan M. Berman]] (1915–2014) was born in Boston and raised in Mattapan. After Camp Lee and a French language test he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] for possible work with the Maquis, then a fractured skull on night maneuvers sent him to Fort Sam Houston, where he classified inductees on a McBee card system. He was discharged at Camp Devens in February 1946 and later lived in Natick, Massachusetts.


Recorded 6 May 1988 at the Morse Institute Library for the Natick Veterans Oral History Project. The interview covers his youth, induction, military-intelligence training, and stateside classification work.
Recorded 6 May 1988 at the Morse Institute Library for the Natick Veterans Oral History Project.


'''Appears:''' [[Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)|Nathan M. Berman]]
'''Appears:''' [[Berman, Nathan M. (31299302)|Nathan M. Berman]]
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=== Victor Brombert ===
=== Victor Brombert ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-wzyTmmSxoK0" data-youtube-id="wzyTmmSxoK0" data-heading="Victor Brombert" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-wzyTmmSxoK0" data-youtube-id="wzyTmmSxoK0" data-heading="Victor Brombert" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)">
[[Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)|Victor Brombert]] was born in Berlin in 1923 into a well-to-do Russian-Jewish family that had previously escaped Russia at the outbreak of the revolution. As Hitler rose to power the Brombert family would once again find itself fleeing, this time to the United States. In 1943 Brombert was drafted into the U.S. Army. Due to his fluency in French, German, and Russian he was placed in a special unit that was trained in frontline military intelligence at Camp Ritchie. In 1944 Brombert took part in the Normandy landings with the 2nd Armored Division at Omaha Beach. He would later see action at the Battle of Hurtgen Forest and the Battle of the Bulge.
[[Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)|Victor Brombert]] was born in Berlin in 1923 to Russian-Jewish parents who had fled the Revolution. The family left again for France in 1933, then reached New York in 1941 on a banana freighter. Drafted in 1943 as a non-citizen, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 11|Class 11]] and landed at Omaha Beach with [[Team MII 423|MII 423]] and the 2nd Armored Division, later serving with [[Team MII 438-G|MII 438-G]] in the Hürtgen Forest and the Bulge. This interview covers the crossing, Ritchie as his "first university," tactical interrogation, and why he long kept the war out of his Princeton classroom.


'''Appears:''' [[Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)|Victor Brombert]]
'''Appears:''' [[Brombert, Victor Henri (32906913)|Victor Brombert]]
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=== Hans Curt Bubel ===
=== Hans Curt Bubel ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-jRzQLYlE1sg" data-youtube-id="jRzQLYlE1sg" data-heading="Hans Curt Bubel" data-short="Cincinnati & Hamilton County Public Library Veterans History Project" data-soldiers="Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-jRzQLYlE1sg" data-youtube-id="jRzQLYlE1sg" data-heading="Hans Curt Bubel" data-short="Cincinnati & Hamilton County Public Library Veterans History Project" data-soldiers="Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)">
[[Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)|Hans Curt Bubel]] was born on 3 October 1925 in Mannheim, Germany, and immigrated to Salt Lake City in 1928. Drafted after high school, he trained in military intelligence at Camp Ritchie (Class 26). He arrived in Europe on VE-Day and searched for enemy documents for the Nuremberg trials. After the war he earned a Ph.D. at the University of Utah and taught medicine for more than thirty years in Cincinnati.
[[Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)|Hans Curt Bubel]] (known as Curt) was born on 3 October 1925 in Mannheim, Germany, and immigrated in 1928 to Murray, Utah. Drafted in 1944, he trained as a medic, then as an interrogator at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 26|Class 26]]. He reached Europe on the Île de France with [[Team MII 490-G|MII 490-G]] and the 13th Airborne Division, collected documents in Bavaria for the Nuremberg trials, and sat three days as an observer there. After a University of Utah doctorate in virology he taught for more than thirty years at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine. He died in 2018.


This Veterans History Project interview covers his wartime service and later life.
This 20 August 2014 Veterans History Project interview at the Cincinnati & Hamilton County Public Library covers his Utah youth, the FBI hold, Camp Ritchie, Nuremberg document work, and his scientific career.


'''Appears:''' [[Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)|Hans Curt Bubel]]
'''Appears:''' [[Bubel, Hans Curt (39926772)|Hans Curt Bubel]]
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=== Henry Butler ===
=== Henry Butler ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-WoRhYy1W3oU" data-youtube-id="WoRhYy1W3oU" data-heading="Henry Butler" data-short="Holocaust Center for Humanity" data-soldiers="Butler, Henry (32784253)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-WoRhYy1W3oU" data-youtube-id="WoRhYy1W3oU" data-heading="Henry Butler" data-short="Holocaust Center for Humanity" data-soldiers="Butler, Henry (32784253)">
[[Butler, Henry (32784253)|Henry Butler]] was born Hans Buxbaum in August 1921. The Buxbaums, a tightknit German-Jewish family, fled the Nazi regime in the 1930s. Henry immigrated to New York, where he was drafted into the US Army in December 1942.
[[Butler, Henry (32784253)|Henry Butler]] was born Hans Buxbaum on 9 August 1921 in Würzburg, Germany. His family moved to Frankfurt in 1937; at sixteen he reached New York on a relative's affidavit. Drafted in 1943, he trained as an interrogator at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 16|Class 16]] and served with [[Team IPW 80|IPW Team 80]] of Third Army in France and Germany. After the war he settled in Seattle, where he recorded this interview with the Holocaust Center for Humanity. He died on 29 November 2023.
 
As a native German speaker, Henry was selected to train at the secret Fort Ritchie Military Intelligence Training Center in Maryland. He and thousands of others returned to their homeland to help defeat the murderous regime they had fled. Called “Ritchie Boys,” they used their German skills to interrogate prisoners on the front lines with the 3rd Army.
 
Henry was discharged from the Army in October 1945.


'''Appears:''' [[Butler, Henry (32784253)|Henry Butler]]
'''Appears:''' [[Butler, Henry (32784253)|Henry Butler]]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoRhYy1W3oU Open on YouTube]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoRhYy1W3oU Open on YouTube]
* [https://www.holocaustcenterseattle.org/survivor/henry-butler/ Holocaust Center for Humanity (Seattle) — Henry Butler]
* ''Video by Holocaust Center for Humanity / Henry Butler''
* ''Video by Holocaust Center for Humanity / Henry Butler''
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=== Stanley Carnarius ===
=== Stanley Carnarius ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-tXRE3VIpqww" data-youtube-id="tXRE3VIpqww" data-heading="Stanley Carnarius" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-tXRE3VIpqww" data-youtube-id="tXRE3VIpqww" data-heading="Stanley Carnarius" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)">
''The Untold Stories of a Clandestine WWII Intelligence Unit: The Ritchie Boys.'' Ritchie Boy [[Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)|Stanley Carnarius]] was born in Illinois, but had a penchant for foreign languages. He spoke German, French, Spanish and Portuguese and was thus accepted into the Ritchie program. While at Camp Ritchie Carnarius would study photo interpretation and map-making and graduate from the 21st Class as an Order of Battle specialist.
''The Untold Stories of a Clandestine WWII Intelligence Unit: The Ritchie Boys.'' [[Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)|Stanley Carnarius]] was born in Peoria, Illinois, on 6 July 1924. Fluent in German, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 18|Class 18]] and [[:Category:Class 19|Class 19]] in photo interpretation, field mapping, and order of battle. This interview covers a trick German exam at Ritchie, interrogations with the 87th Infantry Division, a blackout convoy into the Ardennes, and his choice to stay with [[Team OB 38|OB Team 38]] rather than train for Japan.


'''Appears:''' [[Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)|Stanley Carnarius]]
'''Appears:''' [[Carnarius, Stanley E. (33590016)|Stanley Carnarius]]
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=== John Dolibois ===
=== John Dolibois ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-JSRxsKm91yA" data-youtube-id="JSRxsKm91yA" data-heading="John Dolibois" data-short="Public Library of Cincinnati" data-soldiers="Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-JSRxsKm91yA" data-youtube-id="JSRxsKm91yA" data-heading="John Dolibois" data-short="Public Library of Cincinnati" data-soldiers="Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)">
A naturalized American, [[Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)|John Dolibois]]’ war experiences brought him full circle to his homeland. He emigrated to America from Luxembourg in 1931 as a 13-year-old, quickly learned English, and became an outstanding student in high school in Akron, Ohio, and at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Because he spoke fluent German, Dolibois was recruited for the Army intelligence unit; at war’s end he was driving around Europe, interviewing captured German officers. His postwar assignment brought him to "Ashcan," the code name for a luxury hotel in Mondorf, Luxembourg. There he joined a team of five interrogators who questioned every surviving Third Reich person of note, from Hermann Goering to Julius Streicher, in preparation for the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials.
[[Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)|John Ernest Dolibois]] was born Jean Ernst Dolibois in Luxembourg on 4 December 1918 and reached Akron, Ohio, at thirteen. After Miami University the Army first sent him to tanks and cooks-and-bakers school, then to [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 18|Class 18]], where he became an interrogation instructor. In 1945 he returned to Luxembourg as one of five officers at Mondorf-les-Bains (''Ashcan''), questioning Hermann Göring and other high-ranking prisoners for Nuremberg. This 22 November 2006 interview for the Public Library of Cincinnati covers that path.


'''Appears:''' [[Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)|John Dolibois]]
'''Appears:''' [[Dolibois, John Ernest (01018596)|John Dolibois]]
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=== Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner ===
=== Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-G9hoHqwaD5g" data-youtube-id="G9hoHqwaD5g" data-heading="Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner" data-short="Veterans Breakfast Club (joint)" data-soldiers="Fairbrook, Paul (32709209); Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-G9hoHqwaD5g" data-youtube-id="G9hoHqwaD5g" data-heading="Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner" data-short="Veterans Breakfast Club (joint)" data-soldiers="Fairbrook, Paul (32709209); Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)">
We welcome two Ritchie Boys to the Veterans Breakfast Club: [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]] and [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]. We’re also joined by Beverley Eddy, author of ''Ritchie Boy Secrets'', which tells the story of this now declassified program. Maximilian Lerner immigrated from Vienna to New York in 1941, then enlisted in the US Army and went back to Europe as an American soldier in 1944. He was recruited into the Office of Strategic Services as a special agent for secret missions in Germany. Paul Fairbrook used a valuable stamp collection to make it to the US from Berlin in the late 1930s before being drafted into the Army and trained at Camp Ritchie, Maryland. He also served in Europe overseeing interrogations and review of captured German documents. Beverley Eddy is a historian and author of ''Ritchie Boy Secrets: How a Force of Immigrants and Refugees Helped Win World War II.'' She will guide the conversation with our veterans about this fascinating story.
Historian Beverley Eddy, author of ''Ritchie Boy Secrets'', frames Camp Ritchie, then [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]] and [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]] tell their own service. Fairbrook, born Paul Schoenbach in Berlin, trained with [[:Category:Class 7|Class 7]] and built German order-of-battle files at Fort Hunt. Lerner, born in Vienna, trained with [[:Category:Class 11|Class 11]], served with the OSS, and spent months after VE-Day hunting Nazi officials.


'''Appears:''' [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]], [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
'''Appears:''' [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]], [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
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=== Paul Fairbrook (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Paul Fairbrook (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-nwstO3ARxUI" data-youtube-id="nwstO3ARxUI" data-heading="Paul Fairbrook (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-nwstO3ARxUI" data-youtube-id="nwstO3ARxUI" data-heading="Paul Fairbrook (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)">
[[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]] was born Paul Schoenbach in Berlin in 1923. His family left Germany for Palestine in 1933 and reached the United States after a 1937 transit through Amsterdam secured with a stamp collection. Drafted in January 1943, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] in [[Class 7]] and worked at Fort Hunt’s P.O. Box 1142 documenting the German Army order of battle. After the war he led food-service programs at the Culinary Institute of America and several universities.
[[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]] was born Paul Schoenbach in Berlin in 1923. The family left for Palestine in 1933 and reached New York in 1937 with a stamp collection after a twenty-four-hour expulsion at the German border. Drafted in January 1943, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 7|Class 7]], became a citizen at Hagerstown, and produced German order-of-battle files at Fort Hunt (P.O. Box 1142). After VE-Day he helped organize captured records in the German Military Document Section at Ritchie. This 22 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers that path and his later food-service career.
 
This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his emigration, Camp Ritchie training, Fort Hunt document work, and postwar career.


'''Appears:''' [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]]
'''Appears:''' [[Fairbrook, Paul (32709209)|Paul Fairbrook]]
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=== Fred Fields ===
=== Fred Fields ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-BUJp6Ryl3Sg" data-youtube-id="BUJp6Ryl3Sg" data-heading="Fred Fields" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Fields, Fred D. (32878282)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-BUJp6Ryl3Sg" data-youtube-id="BUJp6Ryl3Sg" data-heading="Fred Fields" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Fields, Fred D. (32878282)">
[[Fields, Fred D. (32878282)|Fred Fields]] was born Siegfried Dingfelder and fled Germany with his family just after Kristallnacht. They arrived in the United States in 1940 and lived in Brooklyn, when Fields worked as a baker until getting drafted into the army. A graduate of Camp Ritchie, Maryland, he shipped out to the ETO as an interrogator and joined his unit 69th IPW in Metz.
[[Fields, Fred D. (32878282)|Fred Fields]] (8 May 1924–2023) was born Siegfried Dingfelder in Uehlfeld, Germany. After Kristallnacht his father was held at Dachau; the family reached England in 1939 and Brooklyn in 1940, where Fields worked as a baker. Drafted in 1943, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 10|Class 10]], took the name Fred Fields when he was naturalized, and interrogated with [[Team IPW 69|IPW Team 69]] from Metz into Germany.


Fred sat for this interview with the American Veterans Center shortly before he passed away in early March 2024. Fred, who was part of [[Team IPW 69|IPW Team 69]], discusses in this interview growing up in Germany, his family, fleeing from Germany to England, and later coming to the USA. Later, he is drafted into the U.S. Army, and ends up on a train to Camp Ritchie. Fred finds himself sent to England, then points beyond. He discusses his military service and more in this interview. (See also [[The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Fred Fields]].)
This American Veterans Center / Veterans Chronicles interview, recorded shortly before his death in 2023, covers Uehlfeld, the flight through England, Camp Ritchie, and IPW work. (See also [[The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Fred Fields]].)


'''Appears:''' [[Fields, Fred D. (32878282)|Fred Fields]]
'''Appears:''' [[Fields, Fred D. (32878282)|Fred Fields]]
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=== Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg ===
=== Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-0BSwFJ4eCeI" data-youtube-id="0BSwFJ4eCeI" data-heading="Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg" data-short="Family interview" data-soldiers="Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-0BSwFJ4eCeI" data-youtube-id="0BSwFJ4eCeI" data-heading="Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg" data-short="Family interview" data-soldiers="Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)">
In 2009, Harold Franken sat down, beside his wife Harriet, to be interviewed by daughter and son-in-law Debbie and Scott Springgate. This is the third of three videos from that interview. Harriet Franken died later that year, and Harold Franken died two years later.
[[Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)|Hellmut J. Frankenberg]] (later Harold Franken; 25 September 1921–2011) fled Nazi Germany with his family, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 16|Class 16]], and served as a technical sergeant on intelligence work in England and on the Continent. After the war he joined the family firm Frank Novelty Company and lived in Ardsley, New York.


Hellmut Frankenberg ([[Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)|Hellmut J. Frankenberg]]) was a Ritchie Boy — a graduate of the Army’s elite military intelligence training program at Camp Ritchie, Maryland. Franken began to offer snippets of information about his wartime experiences only in the last few years before his death in 2011. After avoiding any discussion of his military service for decades, Franken did go into some detail when he and his wife were interviewed by their son-in-law on video in about 2009. [https://altamontenterprise.com/02032022/life-sacrifice-and-secrets-unveiled-after-harold-frankens-death Read more about Harold Franken] (''Altamont Enterprise'').
In 2009 he and his wife Harriet were interviewed by daughter and son-in-law Debbie and Scott Springgate (this is the third of three videos from that sitting). The talk covers London document work, the closed German embassies, and why he had said little for decades. Harriet died later that year; he died in 2011. [https://altamontenterprise.com/02032022/life-sacrifice-and-secrets-unveiled-after-harold-frankens-death Read more in the ''Altamont Enterprise''].


'''Appears:''' [[Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)|Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg]]
'''Appears:''' [[Frankenberg, Hellmut J. (32647997)|Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg]]
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=== Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt ===
=== Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-h6KBFiXWcNI" data-youtube-id="h6KBFiXWcNI" data-heading="Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt" data-short="About Face interview (Steve Karras)" data-soldiers="Smith, Karl G (32475883)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-h6KBFiXWcNI" data-youtube-id="h6KBFiXWcNI" data-heading="Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt" data-short="About Face interview (Steve Karras)" data-soldiers="Smith, Karl G (32475883)">
[[Smith, Karl G (32475883)|Karl Goldsmith]] (1921–2002), born Karl Goldschmidt and listed in Army records as Karl G. Smith, was born in Eschwege, Germany and immigrated to the United States in 1939. He served in Europe in the U.S. Army during World War II, first in the military police, and then as an interrogator and sergeant in charge of a military intelligence team. Immediately following the war, he was responsible for the de-Nazification of his hometown in Germany. Mr. Goldsmith was a 1947 graduate of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. He worked for Thomas Young Orchids in Middlesex before owning the "Flower House" floral shops in the Middlesex area. In 1957, he entered the life insurance business and was the owner of Karl K. Goldsmith, Inc. of Somerville. He remained active in his business until his death.
[[Smith, Karl G (32475883)|Karl Goldsmith]] (1921–2002), born Karl Goldschmidt and listed in Army records as Karl G. Smith, left Eschwege after Kristallnacht and reached the United States in 1939 on the Queen Mary. Drafted in 1942, he served as an MP on the Alcan Highway, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 20|Class 20]], and interrogated with [[Team IPW 143|IPW Team 143]] from France into Germany. After VE-Day he ran denazification in Eschwege. He finished Cornell in 1947, later owned florists and Karl K. Goldsmith, Inc. of Somerville, and died in February 2002.


Interview conducted for the documentary ''About Face: Jewish Refugee Soldiers in the Allied Forces.'' Filmed in Bedminster, NJ, February 2001. (See also [[The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Karl Goldsmith]].)
Interview conducted for the documentary ''About Face: Jewish Refugee Soldiers in the Allied Forces.'' Filmed in Bedminster, New Jersey, February 2001. (See also [[The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Karl Goldsmith]].)


'''Appears:''' [[Smith, Karl G (32475883)|Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt]]
'''Appears:''' [[Smith, Karl G (32475883)|Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt]]
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=== Werner Gumpertz ===
=== Werner Gumpertz ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-DVPhZkaVQLs" data-youtube-id="DVPhZkaVQLs" data-heading="Werner Gumpertz" data-short="Newton Free Library" data-soldiers="Gumpertz, Werner H. (42033526)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-DVPhZkaVQLs" data-youtube-id="DVPhZkaVQLs" data-heading="Werner Gumpertz" data-short="Newton Free Library" data-soldiers="Gumpertz, Werner Herbert (42033526)">
[[Gumpertz, Werner H. (42033526)|Werner Gumpertz]] was born in Germany and immigrated to the United States. He began his service in the U.S. Army after being drafted in 1943. He trained at the Engineering Replacement Training Center at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, and continued his service in Pennsylvania and Camp Ritchie, Maryland, for intelligence training. He was deployed to England, and subsequently moved from the suburbs of Paris to Germany, where he joined the 7th Army as a translator, interrogating German prisoners. He later worked for the U.S. military government in Germany, where he was the agent in charge of publications. He was discharged in early 1946, and worked for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in Frankfurt for a year before returning to the U.S. and studying engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Gumpertz talks about his intelligence training, Europe after the war, and describes a brief encounter with Hermann Goering.
[[Gumpertz, Werner Herbert (42033526)|Werner Herbert Gumpertz]] (26 December 1917–1 December 2017) was born in Berlin, reached New York in 1940, and trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 25|Class 25]]. Drafted in 1943 after Fort Belvoir engineer training, he interrogated for Seventh Army in Germany, then ran publications for military government in Karlsruhe. After a year with the Corps of Engineers in Frankfurt he used the GI Bill at MIT and later co-founded Simpson Gumpertz and Heger.


'''Appears:''' [[Gumpertz, Werner H. (42033526)|Werner Gumpertz]]
This Newton Talks oral history was recorded by Melanie Egan at the Newton Free Library on 7 July 2016. It covers Ritchie document and map exercises, the Channel crossing, Seventh Army interrogation, and a brief encounter with Hermann Goering. Original catalog record: [https://newton.minlib.net/Record/.b36239951 Newton Free Library / Minuteman]. Transcript: [https://archive.org/details/NT_GUMPW Internet Archive]. The video is also on YouTube.
 
'''Appears:''' [[Gumpertz, Werner Herbert (42033526)|Werner Gumpertz]]


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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVPhZkaVQLs Open on YouTube]
* [https://newton.minlib.net/Record/.b36239951 Original catalog record (Newton Free Library / Minuteman)]
* ''Video by Newton Free Library / Werner Gumpertz''
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVPhZkaVQLs Also on YouTube]
* [https://archive.org/details/NT_GUMPW Transcript on Internet Archive]
* ''Video by Newton Free Library / Newton Talks / Werner Gumpertz''
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=== Ellen Kaufmann Boucher ===
=== Gideon Kantor ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-_dbOJqzfVXI" data-youtube-id="_dbOJqzfVXI" data-heading="Gideon Kantor" data-short="Ritchie History Museum" data-soldiers="Kantor, Gideonloc (32974443)">
[[Kaufmann, Ellen J. (A206769)|Ellen J. Kaufmann]] (later Ellen Kaufmann Boucher) was born in 1920 in Mainz, Germany. After anti-Jewish measures closed her father’s shop and Jewish schools, she emigrated to the United States in 1937 with her grandmother. She later learned that her parents and sister Marianne had been deported. Kaufmann joined the Women’s Army Corps in 1943 and by early 1944 was a German interrogation instructor at Camp Ritchie (Technician Fourth Grade, ASN A-206769). She married Melville Boucher at Camp Ritchie in 1946 and died in 2014.
[[Kantor, Gideonloc (32974443)|Gideon Kantor]] (born Guido Kantor, 30 March 1925), rostered as Gideonloc Kantor, left Vienna after the Anschluss, reached New York in April 1941 by way of France, Spain, Portugal, and Cuba, and trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 13|Class 13]]. He landed at Utah Beach with the 4th Armored Division’s 3804th Quartermaster Truck Company, used his French to rejoin the unit when it was cut off near Avranches, earned five battle stars and the French Legion of Honor, and later worked as a research physicist at the FDA.


This 1995 cable-television interview in Canandaigua, New York (conducted by Angela Barrington in response to a Holocaust denier) covers her childhood in Mainz, Nazi restrictions, immigration, and the deportation and deaths of family members. A transcript is among the Ellen Kaufmann Boucher papers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (Accession 2018.38.2).
This Ritchie History Museum conversation covers his Vienna childhood, the flight through France, Spain, Portugal, and Cuba, Camp Ritchie classmates and a drowning on a night exercise, Cattle Alert shipment without an interrogation assignment, the Avranches episode, the camps, and his FDA career.


'''Appears:''' [[Kaufmann, Ellen J. (A206769)|Ellen J. Kaufmann / Ellen Kaufmann Boucher]]
'''Appears:''' [[Kantor, Gideonloc (32974443)|Gideon Kantor]]


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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZxi5JlUdw Open on YouTube]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dbOJqzfVXI Open on YouTube]
* [https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn628064 USHMM — Ellen Kaufmann Boucher papers]
* ''Interview by Ritchie History Museum / Gideon Kantor''
* ''Interview aired on cable television, Canandaigua, New York (1995) / Ellen Kaufmann Boucher''
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=== Gunter Kosse (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Gunter Kosse (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-c1Ba0buAA0c" data-youtube-id="c1Ba0buAA0c" data-heading="Gunter Kosse (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Kosse, Gunter (32712417)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-c1Ba0buAA0c" data-youtube-id="c1Ba0buAA0c" data-heading="Gunter Kosse (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Kosse, Gunter (32712417)">
[[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]] was born in Berlin in 1922. After Kristallnacht his father fled to Cuba; Gunter and his mother followed in 1939, then the family reached New York in 1940. Drafted in 1943, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[Class 9]]) and later served with IPW Team 4 of the 8th Infantry Division. Near war’s end he interpreted at Nuremberg discovery interrogations of Kaltenbrunner, Sauckel, and Frick.
[[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]] was born in Berlin on 14 August 1922. After Kristallnacht his father fled to Cuba; Gunter and his mother followed in 1939, then the family reached New York in 1940. Drafted in 1943, he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[:Category:Class 9|Class 9]]), went through Cattle Alert ranger-style training, and served with [[Team IPW 4|IPW Team 4]] of the 8th Infantry Division. Near war’s end he interpreted at Nuremberg discovery interrogations of Kaltenbrunner, Sauckel, and Frick, then spent decades with the Defense Department in Germany.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his escape route, Ritchie training, combat interrogations, Nuremberg work, and long Defense Department career.
This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (Hans Weinman; Fred Saffron, videographer) covers his Berlin youth and Cuba–New York escape, Ritchie and Cattle Alert training, IPW work, Nuremberg discovery interrogations, and postwar intelligence career.


'''Appears:''' [[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]]
'''Appears:''' [[Kosse, Gunter (32712417)|Gunter Kosse]]
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=== Maximilian Lerner (American Veterans Center) ===
=== Maximilian Lerner (American Veterans Center) ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-gWPHj7v449k" data-youtube-id="gWPHj7v449k" data-heading="Maximilian Lerner (American Veterans Center)" data-short="American Veterans Center" data-soldiers="Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)">
[[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]] was born in 1924 in Vienna, Austria. Following the Anschluss, life in Vienna became increasingly difficult for Lerner’s family and forced them to flee to Paris. After three challenging years, they secured visas to the United States in April 1941. With a deep hatred for the Nazis, Lerner enlisted in the Army as soon as he turned 18.
[[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]] was born on 4 September 1924 in Vienna. After the Anschluss his family escaped on Czech passports to Paris, then through Nice and Portugal to New York in April 1941. He enlisted on his eighteenth birthday, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 11|Class 11]], and served with OSS, SHAEF, and CIC. He entered Paris with Leclerc's 2nd Armored Division, interrogated Wehrmacht and SS officers at the Palais Rothschild, and arrived at Dachau two days after its liberation.
 
Realizing the need for German-speaking soldiers, the Army assigned Lerner to the Military Intelligence Training Center at Camp Ritchie, Maryland in 1943. It was there he trained in intelligence, interrogation, and the German order of battle.


Lerner would deploy to Europe and find himself working alongside the OSS and SHAEF in clandestine military operations. He would be one of the first Americans to enter Paris after its liberation where he interrogated Wehrmacht and SS officers. The war would become intensely personal for Lerner when he was assigned to serve as an interpreter at the recently liberated Dachau concentration camp. The memories of the camp remain with Lerner to this day.
This American Veterans Center interview covers his gymnasium expulsion, the flight from France, the failed OSS parachute selection, SHAEF in London under the V-1s, the liberation of Paris, CIC work, and Dachau.


'''Appears:''' [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
'''Appears:''' [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
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=== Maximilian Lerner (Museum of Jewish Heritage) ===
=== Maximilian Lerner (Museum of Jewish Heritage) ===
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In commemoration of Victory in Europe Day, [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]] shared his eyewitness account of military service in Europe during World War II. Lerner was born in 1924 in Vienna. After three years of challenges, he and his family immigrated to New York in April 1941. At 18, Lerner enlisted in the United States Army. Because of his language skills, he was assigned to the Military Intelligence Training Center at Camp Ritchie in Maryland. He went back to Europe as an American soldier in March of 1944, was recruited into the Office of Strategic Services, and served as a Special Agent in the Counter Intelligence Corps while still engaging in secret missions for the OSS. After Germany’s surrender he was involved in the denazification effort.
[[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]] was born in Vienna in 1924. After the Anschluss his family fled on Czech passports to Paris, then through Nice and Lisbon to New York in April 1941. He enlisted on his eighteenth birthday, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 11|Class 11]], entered Paris with Leclerc's 2nd Armored Division, and did CIC and denazification work in Wiesbaden, including two days with Julius Streicher.
 
This Museum of Jewish Heritage ''Stories Survive'' talk, recorded online on 8 May 2020 for the 75th anniversary of VE-Day, covers the flight from France, Ritchie training, the failed OSS jump, V-1s over London, Paris, the Bulge, Dachau, and the Wiesbaden arrests.


'''Appears:''' [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
'''Appears:''' [[Lerner, Maximilian (32908439)|Maximilian Lerner]]
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* [https://mjhnyc.org/blog/stories-survive-speaker-series-maximilian-lerner/ Museum of Jewish Heritage — Stories Survive (8 May 2020)]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciyqw5a8aOk Open on YouTube]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciyqw5a8aOk Open on YouTube]
* ''Video by Museum of Jewish Heritage / Maximilian Lerner''
* ''Video by Museum of Jewish Heritage / Maximilian Lerner''
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=== Gerald Lieberman (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Gerald Lieberman (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-aTIcyZZIBXQ" data-youtube-id="aTIcyZZIBXQ" data-heading="Gerald Lieberman (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Lieberman, Gerald (32861763)">
[[Lieberman, Gerald (32861763)|Gerald “Jerry” Lieberman]] (born Gerhard) left Munich after Kristallnacht, when his father Leo was briefly held at Dachau. The family reached the United States via the Dominican Republic. A [[Class 10]] Ritchie Boy, he interrogated with the 3rd Infantry Division from Anzio into southern France, earned a Purple Heart, and later served with the 10th Mountain Division.
[[Lieberman, Gerald (32861763)|Gerald “Jerry” Lieberman]] (born Gerhard, 2 December 1924) left Munich after Kristallnacht, when his father Leo was held at Dachau. The family reached the United States via a short visa and six months in the Dominican Republic. He trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 10|Class 10]], interrogated with the 3rd Infantry Division from Anzio into southern France, earned a Purple Heart, and later served with the 10th Mountain Division.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his Munich youth, Camp Ritchie training, Mediterranean and European interrogations, and postwar business life.
This 24 July 2011 oral history at the Holocaust Memorial Center (OHV 415; interviewer Hans Weinman) covers Kristallnacht, Ritchie training, Anzio, the Po River, southern France, Gmunden, and B&G Lieberman Co. in Charlotte.


'''Appears:''' [[Lieberman, Gerald (32861763)|Gerald Lieberman]]
'''Appears:''' [[Lieberman, Gerald (32861763)|Gerald Lieberman]]
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=== Werner E. Michel (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Werner E. Michel (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-WtfVEo05stI" data-youtube-id="WtfVEo05stI" data-heading="Werner E. Michel (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Michel, Werner E. (01329861)">
[[Michel, Werner E. (01329861)|Werner E. Michel]] left Landau for St. Louis in 1936 at age twelve; his father later perished at Auschwitz. After Fort Knox and Fort Benning OCS he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] and commanded IPW Team 270 with the 9th Infantry Division, including Malmedy-related interrogations and undercover CIC work in Bavaria. He later rose to colonel and Defense Intelligence Inspector General.
[[Michel, Werner E. (01329861)|Werner E. Michel]] (2 September 1924 – 7 November 2020) left Landau for St. Louis in 1936 at age twelve; his father later perished at Auschwitz. After Fort Knox and Fort Benning OCS he trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 29|Class 29]] and commanded [[Team IPW 270|IPW Team 270]] with the 9th Infantry Division, including Neu-Ulm general-officer debriefings, Malmedy identity work at Dachau, and undercover CIC work at Oberstdorf. He later rose to colonel and Defense Intelligence Inspector General.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his immigration, Ritchie training, occupation interrogations, and postwar intelligence career.
This 25 July 2011 oral history at the Holocaust Memorial Center (OHV 414; interviewer Hans R. Weinmann) covers his emigration, Ritchie training, occupation interrogations, and long Army and DoD career. The recording ends before the later civilian intelligence posts.


'''Appears:''' [[Michel, Werner E. (01329861)|Werner E. Michel]]
'''Appears:''' [[Michel, Werner E. (01329861)|Werner E. Michel]]
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=== Albert Miller ===
=== Albert Miller ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-1wrxjCJTvjs" data-youtube-id="1wrxjCJTvjs" data-heading="Albert Miller" data-short="Ritchie History Museum" data-soldiers="Miller, Albert W. (35799290)">
Landon Grove, former director of the Ritchie History Museum, had the pleasure of having a virtual conversation with Dr. [[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert Miller]], a Ritchie Boy who shares his story of hardships faced during the Holocaust, his immigration to the United States, time in the military, and life after. We thank Al for his time and his service to the Country!
[[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert W. “Al” Miller]] (20 November 1922 – 24 August 2023) was born in Berlin, sent alone to Switzerland at fourteen, and reached the United States after England. Drafted at Cincinnati in 1943, he went from medic and jeep driver to [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[:Category:Class 29|Class 29]]) and returned to Germany to interrogate prisoners and suspected war criminals. After the war he practiced optometry in Hamilton, Ohio, and became a widely known Holocaust educator in Cincinnati.
 
This Ritchie History Museum conversation, recorded when Miller was ninety-nine, covers the nazification of his Berlin school, the family’s scattered escape, the immigration officer’s charge to “make something of yourself,” and how a stalled jeep helped send him to Ritchie.


'''Appears:''' [[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert Miller]]
'''Appears:''' [[Miller, Albert W. (35799290)|Albert Miller]]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wrxjCJTvjs Open on YouTube]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wrxjCJTvjs Open on YouTube]
* ''Interview by Landon Grove, Ritchie History Museum / Dr. Albert Miller''
* ''Interview by Ritchie History Museum / Dr. Albert Miller''
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=== Warren Musch ===
=== Warren Musch ===
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World War II Marine [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]] is from Virginia, Illinois and enlisted while he was in college. After graduation he was sent to Camp Ritchie, Maryland for combat intel training. He was then assigned to the Third Battalion, 28th Marines, Fifth Marine Division at Camp Pendleton. He served as Combat Intelligence Officer during the invasion and 36-day securement of Iwo Jima and was hand-picked to help plan the invasion of Japan, which of course never happened. He served from 1943–1946. After his service, Warren operated his family farm and taught junior high school science. He was married for 62 years, has two children, five grandchildren, and three great grandchildren.
[[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren R. Musch]] (born 25 October 1921) grew up on a farm near Virginia, Illinois, and joined the Marine Corps Reserve from Illinois College. After Parris Island, Quantico, and [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[:Category:Class 14|Class 14]]) he served as combat intelligence officer with 3rd Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division. He landed on Iwo Jima on 19 February 1945, saw both Suribachi flag raisings, and later helped plan the invasion of Japan before occupation duty at Sasebo.
 
This 2020 EF Explore America interview, recorded when he was ninety-nine, covers the thirteenth-wave landing, battalion intelligence work, the 25–26 March night attack, and his return to farming and teaching in Illinois.


'''Appears:''' [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]]
'''Appears:''' [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_O-TNn0w74 Open on YouTube]
* ''Video by EF Explore America / Warren Musch''
* ''Video by EF Explore America / Warren Musch''
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=== Warren Musch (Connecting With the Past) ===
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[[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren R. Musch]] enlisted from Illinois College in the spring of 1942, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 14|Class 14]], and joined 3rd Battalion, 28th Marines at Camp Pendleton. He married Heraldine at the Santa Margarita Ranch House Chapel on 23 June 1944, landed on Iwo Jima in the thirteenth wave, and led a seventeen-man intelligence section through the thirty-six-day fight.
This 2020 EF Explore America ''Connecting With the Past'' conversation, recorded when he was ninety-nine, is a student Q&A on boot camp, the dry-foot landing, the Suribachi flags, public speaking after 2000, and why he later said the Corps turned a carefree college student into a grown man.
'''Appears:''' [[Musch, Warren R. (289011)|Warren Musch]]
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* ''Video by EF Explore America / Warren Musch (Connecting With the Past)''
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=== Henry Norton (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Henry Norton (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-SQT8VUiQwwM" data-youtube-id="SQT8VUiQwwM" data-heading="Henry Norton (Zekelman Holocaust Center)" data-short="Zekelman Holocaust Center" data-soldiers="Norton, Henry (01183147)">
[[Norton, Henry (01183147)|Henry Norton]] (born Heinrich Julius Nussenbaum in Bautzen) came alone to Rochester, New York, in 1937. An artillery officer before [[Camp Ritchie]], he interrogated with the 88th Infantry Division in Italy, later served in Fifth and Seventh Army G-2, and helped contact German rocket scientists near war’s end. He received the Bronze Star and afterward practiced law in Miami.
[[Norton, Henry (01183147)|Henry Norton]] (16 January 1922–2012), born Heinrich Julius Nussenbaum in Bautzen, came alone to Rochester, New York, in 1937. An artillery officer before [[Camp Ritchie]], he interrogated with the 88th Infantry Division's 350th Infantry in Italy, later served in Fifth and Seventh Army G-2, and helped contact German rocket scientists near war's end. He received the Bronze Star and afterward practiced law in Miami.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his family’s fate, combat interrogations in Italy and France, and postwar life.
This 25 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (OHV 417) covers the Breslau orphanage years, front-line interrogations, the Heidelberg document section, his family's fate, and the Miami law practice.


'''Appears:''' [[Norton, Henry (01183147)|Henry Norton]]
'''Appears:''' [[Norton, Henry (01183147)|Henry Norton]]
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=== Frederick John Rosenthal ===
=== Frederick John Rosenthal ===
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-J011zqZWUiQ" data-youtube-id="J011zqZWUiQ" data-heading="Frederick John Rosenthal" data-short="Conversation with Landon Grove" data-soldiers="Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)">
<div class="yt-interview" id="yt-J011zqZWUiQ" data-youtube-id="J011zqZWUiQ" data-heading="Frederick John Rosenthal" data-short="Ritchie History Museum" data-soldiers="Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)">
[[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]] (also John) grew up Jewish in Cologne, Germany, was sent for a time to relatives in Holland and Belgium, and reached New York with his family as refugees before the Holocaust intensified. Despite a childhood history of polio, he volunteered for the U.S. Army; after infantry training in South Carolina his German and Dutch led to [[Camp Ritchie]] [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]], where he trained in map work and photo interpretation before being alerted overseas without completing the course. In Antwerp he monitored local media, vetted civilians for collaboration, and tracked V-1 and V-2 rocket patterns. After the war he used the G.I. Bill at Columbia University and built a long federal library career that included assistant chief at the Library of Congress.
[[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]] (born Fritz; 4 September 1923 – 24 April 2024) grew up Jewish in Cologne, reached New York with his family before the war, and was drafted in 1943 despite childhood polio. After Camp Croft and ASTP at Minnesota, his German and Dutch led to [[Camp Ritchie]] [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]], where he trained in map work and photo interpretation and was alerted overseas before finishing the course. In Antwerp he tracked V-1 and V-2 impacts, read the Flemish press, and questioned suspected collaborators. After the war he used the G.I. Bill at Columbia and became an administrative librarian at the Library of Congress.


Landon Grove, director of the Ritchie History Museum, had the pleasure of having a virtual conversation with [[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]], a Ritchie Boy who shares his interesting story of his wartime experiences and more. We thank John for his time and his service to the Country! A quick note — We welcomed John as a graduate of the 15th class at Camp Ritchie, but he corrected us that he was a member of [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]], however he did not complete the courses before being alerted for his overseas assignment.
This Ritchie History Museum conversation covers Kristallnacht, the Class 15 correction, Zero Mostel at a Ritchie Passover, the Antwerp rockets, and his later library career.


'''Appears:''' [[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]]
'''Appears:''' [[Rosenthal, Frederick John (32860017)|Frederick John Rosenthal]]
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=== Richard Schifter ===
=== Richard Schifter ===
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Born in Vienna in 1923, [[Schifter, Richard (32966898)|Richard Schifter]] emigrated to the United States at the age of 15 — the only member of his family to do so. In 1943 he joined the US Army and trained as an interrogator of prisoners of war. He was assigned to France in the summer of 1944, tasked with gathering important documents and making certain arrests.
[[Schifter, Richard (32966898)|Richard Schifter]] (31 July 1923 – 4 October 2020) left Vienna alone in December 1938 after the Anschluss; his parents, on the Polish quota, were later murdered. Drafted in 1943, he went from Camp Fannin and Stanford ASTP to [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[:Category:Class 17|Class 17]]) and interrogated with [[Team IPW 94|IPW Team 94]] and [[Team IPW 83|IPW Team 83]], including a Peenemünde engineer whose sketch went to Air Force intelligence. After the war he practiced law and served as Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights.


After the war he learned that his family did not survive the Holocaust, making his emigration all the more surreal. He would go on to serve in the US State Department, the National Security Council, and the UN Security Council. Over his distinguished career, he has served his adopted country in numerous ways.
This American Veterans Center ''Veterans Chronicles'' interview covers 11 March 1938, the ''Nieuw Amsterdam'', Broadway and the V-1s, the first POW who named the 4th Parachute Division, Aachen civilians, and his later human-rights diplomacy.


'''Appears:''' [[Schifter, Richard (32966898)|Richard Schifter]]
'''Appears:''' [[Schifter, Richard (32966898)|Richard Schifter]]
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=== Walter Schwarz (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Walter Schwarz (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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[[Schwarz, Walter (31189305)|Walter Schwarz]] was born in Timișoara, Romania, in 1921 and reached the United States in March 1940. After long training at [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[Class 20]]) he served as a technical sergeant interrogator with Third Army through the Saar, the Battle of the Bulge, and into Czechoslovakia.
[[Schwarz, Walter (31189305)|Walter Schwarz]] (1921–2018) was born in Timișoara, Romania, reached the United States in March 1940 on the ''Conte di Savoia'', and trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 20|Class 20]]. A technical sergeant with [[Team IPW 152|IPW Team 152]] of Third Army, he interrogated through the Saar and the Battle of the Bulge, then found a surviving relative in Plzeň. After the war he studied textiles at Lowell and worked in Canada and Wisconsin.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his Romanian youth, Ritchie training, European interrogations, and postwar textile career.
This 24 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (OHV 413) covers Brno in March 1939, Camp Pickett and Ritchie, Bulge interrogations, and the Kral family after Theresienstadt.


'''Appears:''' [[Schwarz, Walter (31189305)|Walter Schwarz]]
'''Appears:''' [[Schwarz, Walter (31189305)|Walter Schwarz]]
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=== Alfred Shehab ===
=== Alfred Shehab ===
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Lt. Col. [[Shehab, Alfred H. M. (01012319)|Alfred Shehab]] served during WWII, and saw action during the Battle of the Bulge – Hitler’s month-long final offensive on the Western front. LTC Shehab was assigned to the 38th Cavalry Squadron, a reconnaissance unit tasked with patrolling the forests of the Ardennes region when the battle broke out on December 16, 1944. Here, he talks about his distinguished service, and the impact it has had upon his life.
[[Shehab, Alfred H. M. (01012319)|Alfred Shehab]] (18 September 1919 – 12 December 2020) was born in Cape May, New Jersey, trained at [[Camp Ritchie]] with [[:Category:Class 6|Class 6]], and served as a cavalry officer of the 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, 102nd Cavalry Group. His platoon held the Monschau sector when the Battle of the Bulge opened, later met Soviet forces at Torgau on the Elbe, and occupied Czechoslovakia. After retiring as a lieutenant colonel he worked at NASA Goddard and led Battle of the Bulge veterans' groups.
 
This American Veterans Center interview covers Citizen Military Training Corps summers, the Free French episode, Monschau, Hammer and the river crossing, the Torgau banquet, and occupation duty near Pilsen.


'''Appears:''' [[Shehab, Alfred H. M. (01012319)|Alfred Shehab]]
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=== Guy Stern (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Guy Stern (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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[[Stern, Guy (37413105)|Guy Stern]] (born Günther Stern in Hildesheim) reached St. Louis in 1937; his parents and siblings were later murdered in the Holocaust. A [[Class 8]] Ritchie Boy and master sergeant, he interrogated from Normandy through the Bulge, earned the Bronze Star, and afterward became a German-literature scholar and Holocaust Center leader in Michigan.
[[Stern, Guy (37413105)|Guy Stern]] (14 January 1922 – 7 December 2023), born Günther Stern in Hildesheim, reached St. Louis in 1937; his parents and siblings were later murdered in the Warsaw Ghetto. A [[:Category:Class 8|Class 8]] Ritchie Boy and master sergeant with [[Team IPW 41|IPW Team 41]] of First Army, he interrogated from Omaha Beach through the Bulge, ran the Commissar Krukov ruse with [[Howard, Fred (32799358)|Fred Howard]], earned the Bronze Star for mass interrogation, and became a German-literature scholar and director of the International Institute of the Righteous at the Zekelman Holocaust Center.


This November 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (two parts) covers his Hildesheim youth, immigration, wartime intelligence service, and academic career.
This 16 November 2011 Zekelman oral history (OHV 402, two parts) covers his Hildesheim youth, the One Thousand Children rescue, Camp Ritchie, First Army interrogations, learning his family's fate, and his academic career.


'''Appears:''' [[Stern, Guy (37413105)|Guy Stern]]
'''Appears:''' [[Stern, Guy (37413105)|Guy Stern]]
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=== Ernest Wachtel (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
=== Ernest Wachtel (Zekelman Holocaust Center) ===
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[[Wachtel, Ernest (32776330)|Ernest Wachtel]] left Vienna for France in 1938 and reached New York alone in July 1938; his parents followed to a New Jersey chicken farm beside Camp Kilmer. After University of Kentucky topography training he went to [[Camp Ritchie]] and served with IPW Team 62 of Patton’s Third Army from Omaha Beach into Germany, including aid to Dachau survivors after liberation.
[[Wachtel, Ernest (32776330)|Ernest Wachtel]] (6 May 1924 – 2016), born Ernst Wachtel in Vienna, reached New York alone in July 1938; his parents followed to a Stelton, New Jersey, chicken farm beside Camp Kilmer. After University of Kentucky topography training he went to [[Camp Ritchie]] ([[:Category:Class 12|Class 12]] and [[:Category:Class 15|Class 15]], neither course finished) and sorted prisoners with [[Team IPW 62|IPW Team 62]] of Third Army from Omaha Beach into Germany, including aid to Dachau survivors.


This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers his Vienna escape, Ritchie service, Third Army interrogations, and postwar life.
This 24 July 2011 Zekelman oral history (OHV 418) covers the Anschluss, the French transit, Kilmer, Camp Ritchie, POW cages, and Dachau.


'''Appears:''' [[Wachtel, Ernest (32776330)|Ernest Wachtel]]
'''Appears:''' [[Wachtel, Ernest (32776330)|Ernest Wachtel]]
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=== Hugo David Weisgall ===
=== Hugo David Weisgall ===
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[[Weisgall, Hugo David (13072714)|Hugo David Weisgall]] was born on 13 October 1912 in Ivančice, Moravia, emigrated to Baltimore as a child, and trained at Camp Ritchie (Class 2). A composer and conductor, he later taught at the Jewish Theological Seminary, Juilliard, and Queens College.
[[Weisgall, Hugo David (13072714)|Hugo David Weisgall]] (13 October 1912 – 11 March 1997) was born in Ivančice, Moravia, to a family of cantors, reached Baltimore in 1920, and enlisted for [[Camp Ritchie]] [[:Category:Class 2|Class 2]]. A technical sergeant, he survived a U-boat crossing, conducted the BBC Symphony at Royal Albert Hall in 1943, served in London and as cultural attaché in Prague, and later chaired the Jewish Theological Seminary’s Cantors Institute.


This 31 May 1995 Milken Archive oral history covers his family and early life, immigration, World War II service, Jewish identity, musical training, and operatic career. Video hosted on Aviary by the Lowell Milken Center.
This 31 May 1995 Milken Archive oral history covers his Ivančice childhood, Chizuk Amuno, wartime intelligence and music in London, Prague, and his operatic career. Video hosted on Aviary by the Lowell Milken Center.


'''Appears:''' [[Weisgall, Hugo David (13072714)|Hugo David Weisgall]]
'''Appears:''' [[Weisgall, Hugo David (13072714)|Hugo David Weisgall]]
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== See also ==
== See also ==

Latest revision as of 05:14, 21 September 2026


Ritchie Boy Interviews/Testimonies is a watchlist of video and audio interviews and oral histories with Ritchie Boys. Play a recording on this page, or pick a soldier below to jump to their talk. Each entry includes a short biographical blurb before the player. Use the letter buttons to narrow the list; cards stay collapsed until you open one. More will be added as they are discovered. Please contact us if you think an interview should be added.

Feature-length films are on Documentaries/Movies (trailers here stay on that page; this list is interviews).

Watch by soldier[edit | edit source]

Soldiers with more than one video are grouped. Fairbrook and Lerner share one joint interview and each also has solo recordings.

Soldier Videos
Nathan M. Berman 1 interview: Natick Veterans Oral History Project
Eric Heinz Bondy 1 interview: USHMM oral history (audio + transcript)
Victor Brombert 1 interview: American Veterans Center
Hans Curt Bubel 1 interview: Cincinnati & Hamilton County Public Library Veterans History Project
Henry Butler 1 interview: Holocaust Center for Humanity
Stanley Carnarius 1 interview: American Veterans Center
John Dolibois 1 interview: Public Library of Cincinnati
Paul Fairbrook 2 interviews: Veterans Breakfast Club (with Maximilian Lerner) · Zekelman Holocaust Center
Fred Fields 1 interview: American Veterans Center
Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg 1 interview: Family interview
Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt 1 interview: About Face interview (Steve Karras)
Alfred Goodwin 1 interview: OJMCHE oral history (audio)
Werner Gumpertz 1 interview: Newton Free Library
Gideon Kantor 1 interview: Ritchie History Museum
Gunter Kosse 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Maximilian Lerner 4 interviews: Veterans Breakfast Club (with Paul Fairbrook) · American Veterans Center · Interview with David S. Frey · Museum of Jewish Heritage
Gerald Lieberman 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Robert Eliot Matteson 1 interview: USHMM oral history (video + transcript)
Werner E. Michel 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Albert Miller 1 interview: Ritchie History Museum
Warren Musch 2 interviews: EF Explore America · Connecting With the Past
Henry Norton 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Robert A. Potash 1 interview: Yiddish Book Center oral history
Frederick John Rosenthal 1 interview: Ritchie History Museum
Richard Schifter 1 interview: American Veterans Center
Walter Schwarz 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Alfred Shehab 1 interview: American Veterans Center
Guy Stern 1 interview (2 parts): Zekelman Holocaust Center
Ernest Wachtel 1 interview: Zekelman Holocaust Center
Hugo David Weisgall 1 interview: Milken Archive oral history

Interviews[edit | edit source]

Nathan M. Berman[edit | edit source]

Nathan M. Berman (1915–2014) was born in Boston and raised in Mattapan. After Camp Lee and a French language test he trained at Camp Ritchie for possible work with the Maquis, then a fractured skull on night maneuvers sent him to Fort Sam Houston, where he classified inductees on a McBee card system. He was discharged at Camp Devens in February 1946 and later lived in Natick, Massachusetts.

Recorded 6 May 1988 at the Morse Institute Library for the Natick Veterans Oral History Project.

Appears: Nathan M. Berman

Eric Heinz Bondy[edit | edit source]

Eric Heinz Bondy (born Heinz Eric Bondy, 2 June 1924–2014) was born in Bad Gandersheim, Germany. His family fled to Switzerland and then to the United States in 1938, founding the Windsor Mountain School. After mountain-troop training in Colorado he was sent to Camp Ritchie (Class 15), served with IPW Team 50 and the 79th Infantry Division in Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge, and was present at Dachau after liberation. After the war he taught and administered schools for decades, including as headmaster of Windsor Mountain.

Recorded 30 August 2012 in Gaithersburg, Maryland, by Ina Navazelskis for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (RG-50.030.0669 / irn47822). The roughly hour-long oral history (audio, two parts) covers his family, escape from Nazi Germany, Camp Ritchie training, interrogation work with the 79th Division, Dachau, and postwar life. An English transcript is available from USHMM.

Appears: Eric Heinz Bondy

Victor Brombert[edit | edit source]

Victor Brombert was born in Berlin in 1923 to Russian-Jewish parents who had fled the Revolution. The family left again for France in 1933, then reached New York in 1941 on a banana freighter. Drafted in 1943 as a non-citizen, he trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 11 and landed at Omaha Beach with MII 423 and the 2nd Armored Division, later serving with MII 438-G in the Hürtgen Forest and the Bulge. This interview covers the crossing, Ritchie as his "first university," tactical interrogation, and why he long kept the war out of his Princeton classroom.

Appears: Victor Brombert

Hans Curt Bubel[edit | edit source]

Hans Curt Bubel (known as Curt) was born on 3 October 1925 in Mannheim, Germany, and immigrated in 1928 to Murray, Utah. Drafted in 1944, he trained as a medic, then as an interrogator at Camp Ritchie with Class 26. He reached Europe on the Île de France with MII 490-G and the 13th Airborne Division, collected documents in Bavaria for the Nuremberg trials, and sat three days as an observer there. After a University of Utah doctorate in virology he taught for more than thirty years at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine. He died in 2018.

This 20 August 2014 Veterans History Project interview at the Cincinnati & Hamilton County Public Library covers his Utah youth, the FBI hold, Camp Ritchie, Nuremberg document work, and his scientific career.

Appears: Hans Curt Bubel

Henry Butler[edit | edit source]

Henry Butler was born Hans Buxbaum on 9 August 1921 in Würzburg, Germany. His family moved to Frankfurt in 1937; at sixteen he reached New York on a relative's affidavit. Drafted in 1943, he trained as an interrogator at Camp Ritchie with Class 16 and served with IPW Team 80 of Third Army in France and Germany. After the war he settled in Seattle, where he recorded this interview with the Holocaust Center for Humanity. He died on 29 November 2023.

Appears: Henry Butler

Stanley Carnarius[edit | edit source]

The Untold Stories of a Clandestine WWII Intelligence Unit: The Ritchie Boys. Stanley Carnarius was born in Peoria, Illinois, on 6 July 1924. Fluent in German, French, Spanish, and Portuguese, he trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 18 and Class 19 in photo interpretation, field mapping, and order of battle. This interview covers a trick German exam at Ritchie, interrogations with the 87th Infantry Division, a blackout convoy into the Ardennes, and his choice to stay with OB Team 38 rather than train for Japan.

Appears: Stanley Carnarius

John Dolibois[edit | edit source]

John Ernest Dolibois was born Jean Ernst Dolibois in Luxembourg on 4 December 1918 and reached Akron, Ohio, at thirteen. After Miami University the Army first sent him to tanks and cooks-and-bakers school, then to Camp Ritchie with Class 18, where he became an interrogation instructor. In 1945 he returned to Luxembourg as one of five officers at Mondorf-les-Bains (Ashcan), questioning Hermann Göring and other high-ranking prisoners for Nuremberg. This 22 November 2006 interview for the Public Library of Cincinnati covers that path.

Appears: John Dolibois

Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner[edit | edit source]

Historian Beverley Eddy, author of Ritchie Boy Secrets, frames Camp Ritchie, then Paul Fairbrook and Maximilian Lerner tell their own service. Fairbrook, born Paul Schoenbach in Berlin, trained with Class 7 and built German order-of-battle files at Fort Hunt. Lerner, born in Vienna, trained with Class 11, served with the OSS, and spent months after VE-Day hunting Nazi officials.

Appears: Paul Fairbrook, Maximilian Lerner

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  • Video by Veterans Breakfast Club / Paul Fairbrook, Maximilian Lerner & Dr. Beverley Eddy

Paul Fairbrook (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Paul Fairbrook was born Paul Schoenbach in Berlin in 1923. The family left for Palestine in 1933 and reached New York in 1937 with a stamp collection after a twenty-four-hour expulsion at the German border. Drafted in January 1943, he trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 7, became a citizen at Hagerstown, and produced German order-of-battle files at Fort Hunt (P.O. Box 1142). After VE-Day he helped organize captured records in the German Military Document Section at Ritchie. This 22 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history covers that path and his later food-service career.

Appears: Paul Fairbrook

Fred Fields[edit | edit source]

Fred Fields (8 May 1924–2023) was born Siegfried Dingfelder in Uehlfeld, Germany. After Kristallnacht his father was held at Dachau; the family reached England in 1939 and Brooklyn in 1940, where Fields worked as a baker. Drafted in 1943, he trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 10, took the name Fred Fields when he was naturalized, and interrogated with IPW Team 69 from Metz into Germany.

This American Veterans Center / Veterans Chronicles interview, recorded shortly before his death in 2023, covers Uehlfeld, the flight through England, Camp Ritchie, and IPW work. (See also The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Fred Fields.)

Appears: Fred Fields

Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg[edit | edit source]

Hellmut J. Frankenberg (later Harold Franken; 25 September 1921–2011) fled Nazi Germany with his family, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 16, and served as a technical sergeant on intelligence work in England and on the Continent. After the war he joined the family firm Frank Novelty Company and lived in Ardsley, New York.

In 2009 he and his wife Harriet were interviewed by daughter and son-in-law Debbie and Scott Springgate (this is the third of three videos from that sitting). The talk covers London document work, the closed German embassies, and why he had said little for decades. Harriet died later that year; he died in 2011. Read more in the Altamont Enterprise.

Appears: Harold Franken / Hellmut Frankenberg

Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt[edit | edit source]

Karl Goldsmith (1921–2002), born Karl Goldschmidt and listed in Army records as Karl G. Smith, left Eschwege after Kristallnacht and reached the United States in 1939 on the Queen Mary. Drafted in 1942, he served as an MP on the Alcan Highway, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 20, and interrogated with IPW Team 143 from France into Germany. After VE-Day he ran denazification in Eschwege. He finished Cornell in 1947, later owned florists and Karl K. Goldsmith, Inc. of Somerville, and died in February 2002.

Interview conducted for the documentary About Face: Jewish Refugee Soldiers in the Allied Forces. Filmed in Bedminster, New Jersey, February 2001. (See also The Stories/The Enemy I Knew/Karl Goldsmith.)

Appears: Karl Goldsmith / Karl Goldschmidt

Alfred Goodwin[edit | edit source]

Alfred Goodwin was born Alfred Gutmann on 4 August 1914 in Karlsruhe, Baden, Germany, and immigrated to the United States in 1936, settling in Portland, Oregon, with the family firm Bissinger & Company. Drafted in 1942, he trained at Camp Ritchie (Class 4 / IPW Team 33), served as a POW interrogator in Europe—including Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge—with the 409th Infantry, and received the Bronze Star with oak leaf cluster. He was discharged as a master sergeant in 1945, later married Lottie Hirsch, and returned to the hide and wool business in Oregon and Utah. He died on 28 May 1993.

This 1986 oral history for the Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education covers his family and life in Karlsruhe, immigration at age 21, Camp Ritchie training, and wartime service. Audio hosted on SoundCloud by OJMCHE.

Appears: Alfred Goodwin

Werner Gumpertz[edit | edit source]

Werner Herbert Gumpertz (26 December 1917–1 December 2017) was born in Berlin, reached New York in 1940, and trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 25. Drafted in 1943 after Fort Belvoir engineer training, he interrogated for Seventh Army in Germany, then ran publications for military government in Karlsruhe. After a year with the Corps of Engineers in Frankfurt he used the GI Bill at MIT and later co-founded Simpson Gumpertz and Heger.

This Newton Talks oral history was recorded by Melanie Egan at the Newton Free Library on 7 July 2016. It covers Ritchie document and map exercises, the Channel crossing, Seventh Army interrogation, and a brief encounter with Hermann Goering. Original catalog record: Newton Free Library / Minuteman. Transcript: Internet Archive. The video is also on YouTube.

Appears: Werner Gumpertz

Gideon Kantor[edit | edit source]

Gideon Kantor (born Guido Kantor, 30 March 1925), rostered as Gideonloc Kantor, left Vienna after the Anschluss, reached New York in April 1941 by way of France, Spain, Portugal, and Cuba, and trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 13. He landed at Utah Beach with the 4th Armored Division’s 3804th Quartermaster Truck Company, used his French to rejoin the unit when it was cut off near Avranches, earned five battle stars and the French Legion of Honor, and later worked as a research physicist at the FDA.

This Ritchie History Museum conversation covers his Vienna childhood, the flight through France, Spain, Portugal, and Cuba, Camp Ritchie classmates and a drowning on a night exercise, Cattle Alert shipment without an interrogation assignment, the Avranches episode, the camps, and his FDA career.

Appears: Gideon Kantor

Gunter Kosse (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Gunter Kosse was born in Berlin on 14 August 1922. After Kristallnacht his father fled to Cuba; Gunter and his mother followed in 1939, then the family reached New York in 1940. Drafted in 1943, he trained at Camp Ritchie (Class 9), went through Cattle Alert ranger-style training, and served with IPW Team 4 of the 8th Infantry Division. Near war’s end he interpreted at Nuremberg discovery interrogations of Kaltenbrunner, Sauckel, and Frick, then spent decades with the Defense Department in Germany.

This July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (Hans Weinman; Fred Saffron, videographer) covers his Berlin youth and Cuba–New York escape, Ritchie and Cattle Alert training, IPW work, Nuremberg discovery interrogations, and postwar intelligence career.

Appears: Gunter Kosse

Maximilian Lerner (American Veterans Center)[edit | edit source]

Maximilian Lerner was born on 4 September 1924 in Vienna. After the Anschluss his family escaped on Czech passports to Paris, then through Nice and Portugal to New York in April 1941. He enlisted on his eighteenth birthday, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 11, and served with OSS, SHAEF, and CIC. He entered Paris with Leclerc's 2nd Armored Division, interrogated Wehrmacht and SS officers at the Palais Rothschild, and arrived at Dachau two days after its liberation.

This American Veterans Center interview covers his gymnasium expulsion, the flight from France, the failed OSS parachute selection, SHAEF in London under the V-1s, the liberation of Paris, CIC work, and Dachau.

Appears: Maximilian Lerner

Maximilian Lerner (David S. Frey)[edit | edit source]

An Afternoon With Ritchie Boy, Maximilian Lerner. Maximilian Lerner was born in Vienna, Austria. His life from there followed a complex sequence of escape and resistance through World War II. He joined the U.S. Army in 1943 and — thanks to his fluency in three languages — was assigned to military intelligence. His destiny took him back to Europe where he served in the Office of Strategic Services, the predecessor of the CIA, through the liberation of the continent and the end of the war. His government career terminated with his assignment as a Special Agent in the Counter Intelligence Corps. In addition to his autobiography, Flight and Return: A Memoir of World War II, Lerner has published two novels based on his experiences. On October 19, 2021, this interview with Maximilian Lerner was conducted on location in New York City by Dr. David S. Frey.

Appears: Maximilian Lerner

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  • Video by Glenn Godart & Peter Brannigan / Maximilian Lerner

Maximilian Lerner (Museum of Jewish Heritage)[edit | edit source]

Maximilian Lerner was born in Vienna in 1924. After the Anschluss his family fled on Czech passports to Paris, then through Nice and Lisbon to New York in April 1941. He enlisted on his eighteenth birthday, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 11, entered Paris with Leclerc's 2nd Armored Division, and did CIC and denazification work in Wiesbaden, including two days with Julius Streicher.

This Museum of Jewish Heritage Stories Survive talk, recorded online on 8 May 2020 for the 75th anniversary of VE-Day, covers the flight from France, Ritchie training, the failed OSS jump, V-1s over London, Paris, the Bulge, Dachau, and the Wiesbaden arrests.

Appears: Maximilian Lerner

Gerald Lieberman (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Gerald “Jerry” Lieberman (born Gerhard, 2 December 1924) left Munich after Kristallnacht, when his father Leo was held at Dachau. The family reached the United States via a short visa and six months in the Dominican Republic. He trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 10, interrogated with the 3rd Infantry Division from Anzio into southern France, earned a Purple Heart, and later served with the 10th Mountain Division.

This 24 July 2011 oral history at the Holocaust Memorial Center (OHV 415; interviewer Hans Weinman) covers Kristallnacht, Ritchie training, Anzio, the Po River, southern France, Gmunden, and B&G Lieberman Co. in Charlotte.

Appears: Gerald Lieberman

Robert Eliot Matteson[edit | edit source]

Robert Eliot Matteson (Robert Eliot Matteson, 1914–1994), a Carleton College graduate associated with Camp Ritchie on the roster, headed a Counter Intelligence Corps unit under the 80th Infantry Division in Patton’s Third Army. In Austria he entered Ebensee after the SS fled, tracked Ernst Kaltenbrunner to a mountain hideout near Altaussee, and in late 1945 handled personnel security at the Nuremberg Palace of Justice (including brief confrontations with major defendants). After the war he directed research for Harold Stassen, met Stalin in Moscow in 1947, later visited Albert Speer, and worked on U.S.–Cuba cultural contacts.

This June 1982 video testimony was recorded at the University of Wisconsin–River Falls (audience talk plus studio Q&A) and is held by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (RG-50.043.0005 / irn512456). An English transcript is available from USHMM.

Appears: Robert Eliot Matteson

Werner E. Michel (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Werner E. Michel (2 September 1924 – 7 November 2020) left Landau for St. Louis in 1936 at age twelve; his father later perished at Auschwitz. After Fort Knox and Fort Benning OCS he trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 29 and commanded IPW Team 270 with the 9th Infantry Division, including Neu-Ulm general-officer debriefings, Malmedy identity work at Dachau, and undercover CIC work at Oberstdorf. He later rose to colonel and Defense Intelligence Inspector General.

This 25 July 2011 oral history at the Holocaust Memorial Center (OHV 414; interviewer Hans R. Weinmann) covers his emigration, Ritchie training, occupation interrogations, and long Army and DoD career. The recording ends before the later civilian intelligence posts.

Appears: Werner E. Michel

Albert Miller[edit | edit source]

Albert W. “Al” Miller (20 November 1922 – 24 August 2023) was born in Berlin, sent alone to Switzerland at fourteen, and reached the United States after England. Drafted at Cincinnati in 1943, he went from medic and jeep driver to Camp Ritchie (Class 29) and returned to Germany to interrogate prisoners and suspected war criminals. After the war he practiced optometry in Hamilton, Ohio, and became a widely known Holocaust educator in Cincinnati.

This Ritchie History Museum conversation, recorded when Miller was ninety-nine, covers the nazification of his Berlin school, the family’s scattered escape, the immigration officer’s charge to “make something of yourself,” and how a stalled jeep helped send him to Ritchie.

Appears: Albert Miller

Warren Musch[edit | edit source]

Warren R. Musch (born 25 October 1921) grew up on a farm near Virginia, Illinois, and joined the Marine Corps Reserve from Illinois College. After Parris Island, Quantico, and Camp Ritchie (Class 14) he served as combat intelligence officer with 3rd Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division. He landed on Iwo Jima on 19 February 1945, saw both Suribachi flag raisings, and later helped plan the invasion of Japan before occupation duty at Sasebo.

This 2020 EF Explore America interview, recorded when he was ninety-nine, covers the thirteenth-wave landing, battalion intelligence work, the 25–26 March night attack, and his return to farming and teaching in Illinois.

Appears: Warren Musch

Warren Musch (Connecting With the Past)[edit | edit source]

Warren R. Musch enlisted from Illinois College in the spring of 1942, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 14, and joined 3rd Battalion, 28th Marines at Camp Pendleton. He married Heraldine at the Santa Margarita Ranch House Chapel on 23 June 1944, landed on Iwo Jima in the thirteenth wave, and led a seventeen-man intelligence section through the thirty-six-day fight.

This 2020 EF Explore America Connecting With the Past conversation, recorded when he was ninety-nine, is a student Q&A on boot camp, the dry-foot landing, the Suribachi flags, public speaking after 2000, and why he later said the Corps turned a carefree college student into a grown man.

Appears: Warren Musch

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  • Video by EF Explore America / Warren Musch (Connecting With the Past)

Henry Norton (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Henry Norton (16 January 1922–2012), born Heinrich Julius Nussenbaum in Bautzen, came alone to Rochester, New York, in 1937. An artillery officer before Camp Ritchie, he interrogated with the 88th Infantry Division's 350th Infantry in Italy, later served in Fifth and Seventh Army G-2, and helped contact German rocket scientists near war's end. He received the Bronze Star and afterward practiced law in Miami.

This 25 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (OHV 417) covers the Breslau orphanage years, front-line interrogations, the Heidelberg document section, his family's fate, and the Miami law practice.

Appears: Henry Norton

Robert A. Potash[edit | edit source]

Robert A. Potash was born in Boston, Massachusetts, in 1921. He studied history at Harvard, trained at Camp Ritchie (Class 19), and served overseas as a technician fourth grade. After the war he became a historian of Argentine politics and military affairs; his memoir Looking Back at My First Eighty Years appeared in 2008. He died in 2016.

Interviewed by Allie Brudney on 13 January 2012 at the Yiddish Book Center in Amherst, Massachusetts, this oral history covers family life, Jewish identity and Yiddish education, Harvard years, and related themes (English-language recording with video highlight clips on the Center site).

Appears: Robert A. Potash

Frederick John Rosenthal[edit | edit source]

Frederick John Rosenthal (born Fritz; 4 September 1923 – 24 April 2024) grew up Jewish in Cologne, reached New York with his family before the war, and was drafted in 1943 despite childhood polio. After Camp Croft and ASTP at Minnesota, his German and Dutch led to Camp Ritchie Class 15, where he trained in map work and photo interpretation and was alerted overseas before finishing the course. In Antwerp he tracked V-1 and V-2 impacts, read the Flemish press, and questioned suspected collaborators. After the war he used the G.I. Bill at Columbia and became an administrative librarian at the Library of Congress.

This Ritchie History Museum conversation covers Kristallnacht, the Class 15 correction, Zero Mostel at a Ritchie Passover, the Antwerp rockets, and his later library career.

Appears: Frederick John Rosenthal

Richard Schifter[edit | edit source]

Richard Schifter (31 July 1923 – 4 October 2020) left Vienna alone in December 1938 after the Anschluss; his parents, on the Polish quota, were later murdered. Drafted in 1943, he went from Camp Fannin and Stanford ASTP to Camp Ritchie (Class 17) and interrogated with IPW Team 94 and IPW Team 83, including a Peenemünde engineer whose sketch went to Air Force intelligence. After the war he practiced law and served as Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights.

This American Veterans Center Veterans Chronicles interview covers 11 March 1938, the Nieuw Amsterdam, Broadway and the V-1s, the first POW who named the 4th Parachute Division, Aachen civilians, and his later human-rights diplomacy.

Appears: Richard Schifter

Walter Schwarz (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Walter Schwarz (1921–2018) was born in Timișoara, Romania, reached the United States in March 1940 on the Conte di Savoia, and trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 20. A technical sergeant with IPW Team 152 of Third Army, he interrogated through the Saar and the Battle of the Bulge, then found a surviving relative in Plzeň. After the war he studied textiles at Lowell and worked in Canada and Wisconsin.

This 24 July 2011 Zekelman Holocaust Center oral history (OHV 413) covers Brno in March 1939, Camp Pickett and Ritchie, Bulge interrogations, and the Kral family after Theresienstadt.

Appears: Walter Schwarz

Alfred Shehab[edit | edit source]

Alfred Shehab (18 September 1919 – 12 December 2020) was born in Cape May, New Jersey, trained at Camp Ritchie with Class 6, and served as a cavalry officer of the 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, 102nd Cavalry Group. His platoon held the Monschau sector when the Battle of the Bulge opened, later met Soviet forces at Torgau on the Elbe, and occupied Czechoslovakia. After retiring as a lieutenant colonel he worked at NASA Goddard and led Battle of the Bulge veterans' groups.

This American Veterans Center interview covers Citizen Military Training Corps summers, the Free French episode, Monschau, Hammer and the river crossing, the Torgau banquet, and occupation duty near Pilsen.

Appears: Alfred Shehab

Guy Stern (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Guy Stern (14 January 1922 – 7 December 2023), born Günther Stern in Hildesheim, reached St. Louis in 1937; his parents and siblings were later murdered in the Warsaw Ghetto. A Class 8 Ritchie Boy and master sergeant with IPW Team 41 of First Army, he interrogated from Omaha Beach through the Bulge, ran the Commissar Krukov ruse with Fred Howard, earned the Bronze Star for mass interrogation, and became a German-literature scholar and director of the International Institute of the Righteous at the Zekelman Holocaust Center.

This 16 November 2011 Zekelman oral history (OHV 402, two parts) covers his Hildesheim youth, the One Thousand Children rescue, Camp Ritchie, First Army interrogations, learning his family's fate, and his academic career.

Appears: Guy Stern

Ernest Wachtel (Zekelman Holocaust Center)[edit | edit source]

Ernest Wachtel (6 May 1924 – 2016), born Ernst Wachtel in Vienna, reached New York alone in July 1938; his parents followed to a Stelton, New Jersey, chicken farm beside Camp Kilmer. After University of Kentucky topography training he went to Camp Ritchie (Class 12 and Class 15, neither course finished) and sorted prisoners with IPW Team 62 of Third Army from Omaha Beach into Germany, including aid to Dachau survivors.

This 24 July 2011 Zekelman oral history (OHV 418) covers the Anschluss, the French transit, Kilmer, Camp Ritchie, POW cages, and Dachau.

Appears: Ernest Wachtel

Hugo David Weisgall[edit | edit source]

Hugo David Weisgall (13 October 1912 – 11 March 1997) was born in Ivančice, Moravia, to a family of cantors, reached Baltimore in 1920, and enlisted for Camp Ritchie Class 2. A technical sergeant, he survived a U-boat crossing, conducted the BBC Symphony at Royal Albert Hall in 1943, served in London and as cultural attaché in Prague, and later chaired the Jewish Theological Seminary’s Cantors Institute.

This 31 May 1995 Milken Archive oral history covers his Ivančice childhood, Chizuk Amuno, wartime intelligence and music in London, Prague, and his operatic career. Video hosted on Aviary by the Lowell Milken Center.

Appears: Hugo David Weisgall

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